HWTGURU
98 posts
May 31, 2009
6:33 PM
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Thought I would try to liven up the forum. Let me know if someone has moved or graduated. Using the new division format - San Marcos is gone and University City is in. Criteria: Based on last years State, Masters, CIF, 08 Results. Weights have not been changed!!! 103:
1. Carmona - Brawley
2. Vexler - Valley Center
3. Gamez - Mater Dei
4. Charles - University City
5. Revels - St. Augustine 112:
1. Harvey - Imperial
2. Lule - Palo Verde
3. Gonzales - Olympian
4. Wilson - Santana
5. ?? 119:
1. Ramos - Imperial
2. Green - Cathedral
3. Sandoval - Brawley (Sawyer Smith?)
4. Lule - Palo Verde
5. Lorenzen - Canyon Crest 125:
1. Lizarraga - Brawley
2. Salazar - Central
3. Westgate - Madison
4. Simone - Canyon Crest
5. Shoemate - Palo Verde 130:
1. Maya - Brawley
2. Eaker - St. Augustine
3. Winfield - Sante Fe
4. Chavez - Cathedral Catholic
5. Calderon - Olympian 135:
1. Mayo - Brawley
2. Banales - Imperial
3. Polizzi - Escondido Charter
4. Durvil - University City
5. Johnson - Clairemont
5 tie. Williams - Madisoon 140:
1. Carmona - Brawley
2. McFadden - Central
3. Bruder - La Jolla
4. Elliott - Canyon Crest
5. Guizar - Central 145:
1. Castaneda - Mission Bay
2. Vasquez - St. Augustine
3. Abromowitz - La Jolla
4. Liston - Brawley
5. ?? 152:
1. Black - Palo Verde
2. Viesca - Olympian
3. Elliott - Imperial
4. Ming - Holtville
5. DeMaria - Cathedral Catholic 160:
1. Medina - Central
2. Stafford - Guajome Park
3. Nunez - Brawley
4. Rocha - Palo Verde
4 tie. Medina - Imperial 171:
1. Benassi - Cathedral Catholic
2. Howder - St. Augustine
3. Kibbe - Clairemont
4. ??
5. ?? 189:
1. Nunez - Brawley
2. Jefferies - Madison
3. Grylls - Olympian
4. Hesse - Army Navy
5. Durnil - University City 215:
1. Eidson - Santana
2. Maness - Brawley
3. Stanich - Army Navy
4. Contreras / Martinez - Imperial
5. ?? 285:
1. Torres - Brawley
2. Blasque Spreen - La Jolla
3. Hernandez - Palo Verde
4. Folgren - Central Union
5. Perez - Olympian
5 tie. Gonzales - Holtville
Again - these are Pre-Pre season rankings. If someone graduated or moved - let me know.
Last Edited on 13-Jun-2009 8:12 AM
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IVL fan
179 posts
May 31, 2009
7:09 PM
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Ruiz of Brawley is currently a senior.
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HWTGURU
100 posts
May 31, 2009
7:21 PM
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IVL - Thanks. Pre-Pre season rankings adjusted. ----------
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crossface
238 posts
May 31, 2009
8:24 PM
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Wow!! 130# looks tough at this division. Daniel Gallenson from Canyon Crest HS graduates this spring.
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HWTGURU
103 posts
May 31, 2009
8:27 PM
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Crossface - Thanks. List adjusted.
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REVERSAL1
280 posts
Jun 01, 2009
6:35 AM
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Parra from Holtville graduates this year.
Martinez from Imperial at 215 lbs.
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HWTGURU
106 posts
Jun 01, 2009
7:19 AM
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Reversal - Thanks. List updated.
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J.P. MHS
111 posts
Jun 01, 2009
8:38 AM
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Williams from Madison at 135 lost at the Medal round at CIF. He will be back and tough next year. The HWT from La Jolla will probably be at 215s next year. He was barely in heavies this year after an injury.
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J.P. Santone
Madison High School
Head Coach
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OlympianEagles
1 post
Jun 01, 2009
3:12 PM
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(160)Seibel from Olympian is a senior this year.
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HWTGURU
107 posts
Jun 01, 2009
7:33 PM
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JP & Olympian - Thanks, List adjusted. Will wait for the season on the La Jolla 285lber.
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love food
21 posts
Jun 02, 2009
8:04 PM
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vexler will not be 103s
125s or 119
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Marc Smith
563 posts
Jun 02, 2009
9:33 PM
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66386, Get the team to come to camp in Brawley.
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66386
60 posts
Jun 03, 2009
8:13 AM
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most of them are going to the brawley camp this year
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Marc Smith
564 posts
Jun 03, 2009
10:35 AM
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tell them to get in touch with me btown.wrestling@sbcglobal.net
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DIV.2 watcher
2 posts
Jun 04, 2009
12:10 PM
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very well done looks pretty accurate
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Marc Smith
566 posts
Jun 04, 2009
12:25 PM
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Only 2 BUHS weights may be accurate. Carmona 103 and Lizarraga 125. Some kids 20lbs heavier now and will not cut that much weight.
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66386
61 posts
Jun 04, 2009
2:38 PM
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i will....why do they need to get in touch with you.
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Marc Smith
567 posts
Jun 04, 2009
2:49 PM
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team discounts
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Guajomewrestler
1 post
Jun 06, 2009
1:02 AM
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Sullivan is a Senior so you can take him off the list oh and just wait for Stafford to show his dominance. By mid-season he will be ranked first. He is really hungry for the CiF championship and is putting alot of heart into this next season.
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HWTGURU
108 posts
Jun 06, 2009
7:39 AM
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Guajome: Thank you, list adjusted. Marc: I realize the weights in these rankings are off as they were based on last season. I was just looking for input on who is coming back next year, as it is hard to track the grade levels of the wrestlers.
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ThomasP
1 post
Jun 08, 2009
6:23 AM
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the 160lber from La Jolla is a senior
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Cathedral_Coach
12 posts
Jun 11, 2009
7:10 PM
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Projected Line up For Cathedral
103 - Incoming Freshman
112 - Scott McElhaney 2-2 at CIF last year
119 - Ricky Albanese
125 - Thomas Greene 5th,2nd,3rd CIF
130 - ?
135 - ?
140 - Colin Vaz
145 - Christian Chavez 4th, 5th CIF
152 - Andrew DeMaria
160 - Clayton Jakshaw/Hank Yoder
171 - Max Benassi 5th 3rd CIF
189 - Ryan Balelo
215 - Nick Balelo
HWT - Andrew In these are based on hopeful returners and weight classes may change slightly. And, ereyone get suprises every year.
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HWTGURU
109 posts
Jun 13, 2009
8:15 AM
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Thomas P - Thanks, list adjusted. Cathedral Coach - Thanks for the update, I have adjusted my records. Good luck next season.
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love food
22 posts
Jun 13, 2009
6:27 PM
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u goes are for getting Alec Morgan from VC he got 2nd as a sophomore and was injured this year but next year he is going to be good
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perez_wrestling
2 posts
Jun 15, 2009
10:46 AM
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central union incomin freshman to throw in the mix
micah perez 103
nick alvarez 145 or 52s
Last Edited on 15-Jun-2009 10:49 AM
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that one kid
14 posts
Jun 17, 2009
8:14 PM
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dude this is so wrong
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mh262
97 posts
Jun 17, 2009
11:57 PM
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that one kid, can you offer some suggestions? ----------
Division 4. It is what it is.
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love_wrestling 119
1 post
Jun 18, 2009
11:26 PM
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cathedrial_coach are you sure thomas greene isnt gonna be 119 next year??and how is Albenese??what grade??
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love_wrestling 119
2 posts
Jun 18, 2009
11:27 PM
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anyone know what weight tony ramos is gonna be next year??
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Marc Smith
583 posts
Jun 19, 2009
8:35 AM
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Sawyer Smith wrestled greene a couple weeks ago at Otay at 145!!
Long way from 119
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mh262
98 posts
Jun 19, 2009
11:25 AM
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I'm seeing Thomas as a 130#'er next year. Maybe 135's.
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Division 4. It is what it is.
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love_wrestling 119
3 posts
Jun 19, 2009
11:32 PM
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oh sorry 66386 but i was talking bout tony not ricky lule..but how do you know that hes gonna be 112s next year??
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love_wrestling 119
4 posts
Jun 19, 2009
11:33 PM
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and does anyone know whos gonna be at 119's in the imperial valley leauge??is smith still gonna be down there??
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66386
63 posts
Jun 20, 2009
12:58 PM
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well ramos went 140 at a tournament so i doubt he will be 119 again
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that one kid
15 posts
Jun 20, 2009
5:57 PM
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you should go to summer league and other tournaments and actually see who is going to be good this year
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Marc Smith
585 posts
Jun 20, 2009
7:06 PM
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Brawley does not know who 119 will be. Sandoval is still 120 wet and a SR will go 112. Really improving. Oscar can go 130 in season, but look for him to be a 125 state placer.just quit football and baseball to dedicate himself to wrestling. So maybe 2008 frosh champ Art Solorzano or Tyler Mayo to go 119. Sawyer will wrestle at least 3 wt classes higher.
Last Edited on 21-Jun-2009 5:52 PM
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theleg
15 posts
Jun 20, 2009
9:44 PM
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Could be interesting Grubbs and Lizarraga in Masters Finals. Grubbs too good though - State Champ.
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66386
64 posts
Jun 20, 2009
10:08 PM
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what senior is going 112s for brawley??
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that one kid
16 posts
Jun 21, 2009
5:42 PM
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if im not mistaken the 130 pounder from esco charter has been beaten by dylan smith from vc several times and they weren't close losses
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Marc Smith
587 posts
Jun 21, 2009
5:54 PM
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Johnny Sandoval, filled in at cif at 119 for Sawyer and got 4th, but was a true 112lb.
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If you think it's hard to succeed under these circumstances........... Get out from under there!! There is no excuse big enough for a man on a mission.
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HWTGURU
114 posts
Jun 22, 2009
6:15 PM
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That one kid: When I set up these Pre-Pre Season rankings I used the information from Masters and CIF. My main objective was to find out who graduated and who was coming back - nothing more. You seem to have a pretty good handle on Valley Center, who should I watch for in the upcoming year?
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66386
67 posts
Jun 23, 2009
11:28 AM
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what weight is kyle vexler going next year
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REVERSAL1
281 posts
Jun 23, 2009
2:39 PM
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I think it would be more accurate if you bump everyone up one weight class and start from there.
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popleg
64 posts
Jun 23, 2009
3:36 PM
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Yeah, that's not likely bro,
If you want it to be accurate, the wrestlers has to prove it themselves. Like i tell others, "Rankings don't mean Sh***. Besides, most of these kids wouldn't be able to wrestle the same weight class they did the previous season. Some of these kids (Smith, Koch, Brown, Romero, Mckirdy, and many more) are no where near. It's off-season, Kids get fat and relax. The ones who will success are the ones who are dedicated and have the will to train over break. What i tell my kids is that the shorter way to do many things is to do only one thing at a time.
Rankings? besides where most of it even accurate?
It doen't matter it's an open forum and free thoughts are aloud.
Get fat and Enjoy summer guys.
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love food
23 posts
Jun 23, 2009
4:17 PM
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66386
vexler will probly go 112 because 119 and 25s r stacked
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popleg
65 posts
Jun 23, 2009
4:59 PM
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with who?
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cradle10
35 posts
Jun 23, 2009
11:16 PM
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aren't you ricky lule, 66386?
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PV-WATCHER
1 post
Jun 24, 2009
12:40 PM
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103-daniel talamante 10
112-ricky lule 12
119-junior lule 11
125-jacob shoemate 12
130-issak hernandez 11
135-max barboa 10
140-wade johnson? 10
145-?
152-greg amaya 10
160-alan black 12
171-jonathan rocha 12
189-?
215-cody krissel 10
hwt-jorge hernandez 12
Last Edited on 24-Jun-2009 1:17 PM
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that one kid
17 posts
Jun 24, 2009
1:32 PM
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hwtguru just go and watch and you'll see for yourself
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HWTGURU
115 posts
Jun 25, 2009
7:42 AM
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That one kid: I agree with you, seeing is believing. Unfortunately, its tough for me to get to summer league due to work schedule. Everyone: Thank you for the updates, there are going to be some great battles in D4 next year.
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